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In response to The Idea of Communism Edited by Slavoj Žižek, and Costas Douzinas

Communism, A New Beginning?




Slavoj Žižek hosts a conference at Cooper Union in New York, to discuss the continued relevance of the communist idea.

“The long night of the Left is coming to a close” wrote Slavoj Žižek and Costas Douzinas in their introduction to The Idea of Communism. The continuing economic crisis, the shift away from a unipolar world defined by American hegemony, and the ecological crisis mean that growing numbers of people are keen to explore an alternative, and to rediscover the idea of communism. With the advent of the Arab Revolts, millions have sought new ways to overcome corruption and dictatorship—and they've now been joined by the wave of occupations in the US, challenging runaway inequality and the power of corporations and the super-rich.

Friday, Oct 14, 6–9pm EDT: Slavoj Žižek, Frank Ruda, and Alain Badiou read by Bruno Bosteels. 

Saturday, Oct 15, 10am–1pm EDT: Bruno Bosteels and Susan Buck-Morss. 

Saturday, Oct 15, 3–7pm EDT: Adrian Johnston and Etienne Balibar.

Sunday, Oct 16, 10am–1pm EDT: Jodi Dean and Slavoj Žižek. 

In response to The Idea of Communism Edited by Slavoj Žižek, and Costas Douzinas

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Will these talks be available after the live stream? I have to miss some of the live times, so it would be useful if they are posted for later access.
Ken Hammond / 14 October 2011 5 people think so
Hi everyone! I'll be keeping an eye on this discussion from the conference room, so if there are any good questions for the speakers I can try and relay one or two of them at the end of the session. If you agree with someone's else's question, please mark it as 'interesting' ...
And we'll be posting all of these videos once we've edited the footage - please just give us a few days!
Jacob Stevens / 15 October 2011

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My fellow viewers: is everyone else being presented with an 'OFFLINE' message?
Stephen Perry / 14 October 2011
Hi, yes, that's what I've got. What's going on Verso?
D A / 14 October 2011
Hi - the broadcast will start at 6pm tonight! The timetable is below the video player ... 
Jacob Stevens / 14 October 2011
Ah yes. Not. On. UK. Time.
 Thanks.
D A / 14 October 2011
Alain Badiou will not be attending after all?
Gabe Jones / 14 October 2011
Ok, I've made it clearer that it's Eastern Daylight Time ... Sadly no, Alain had to cancel due to illness, but his statement in the first panel will be read by Bruno Bosteels ... 
Jacob Stevens / 14 October 2011
May be 6 pm US time. We're UK, five hours behind?
Lynne Wrennall / 14 October 2011
So there will be only reading during today' s panels? am i right? 
Andrej Mrevlje / 14 October 2011 1 person thinks so
You're incorrect, Andrej - Slavoj Žižek will give short introductory remarks (in person) and Frank Ruda will present "Remembering the Impossible: For a Meta-Critical Anamnesis of Communism" (in person). Only Badiou's talk will be read in his absence.
Jessica Turner / 14 October 2011
Thank you. This was helpful, coming there. 
Andrej Mrevlje / 14 October 2011
The discussion starts at 10pm GMT.
Mark Collins / 14 October 2011 1 person thinks so
Hello everyone.

John Cumpston / 14 October 2011
Yes 

Paul Brennan / 14 October 2011
I must say: a live feed of an event like this warms the cockles of the heart of a commie, unemployed, failed or ex- academic like myself. Thanks Verso!
Paul Brennan / 14 October 2011 2 people think so
4:15pm on Florida Time (5:15pm NYC). I still have the offline notice. Patience, but fingers crossed nevertheless.
Marco Vélez / 14 October 2011
"a Meta-Critical Anamnesis of Communism".. er, okay. Language like that has the effect of xanax on most people...
Mark Collins / 14 October 2011
Thank you verso!  The live stream is working. 

Thomas Pedroni / 14 October 2011
Does anyone have the slighest clue what a "a Meta-Critical Anamnesis" is?


Mark Collins / 14 October 2011 2 people think so
Will these talks be available after the live stream? I have to miss some of the live times, so it would be useful if they are posted for later access.
Ken Hammond / 14 October 2011 5 people think so
bit wordy..
D A / 14 October 2011
Remembering the Impossible: For a Meta-Critical Anamnesis of Communism? 
Is this text in the book?

John Cumpston / 14 October 2011

meta-critical: critical thinking that is self-reflexive in its operation.

anamnesis: learning as the recovery of the forgotten.
Stephen Perry / 14 October 2011
Thank you. I had a little read around and understand it now. But must the recovery of the forgotten feel so alienating? How might the proletariat recover the forgotten if it's framed in such obfuscating language?

I wonder how many in the audience feel utterly lost...
Mark Collins / 14 October 2011 3 people think so
ah dialectic porn. Can we get to the clever movie analogies already?
Douglas Haddow / 14 October 2011 1 person thinks so
Dwayne from Beverly Hills here. I'd like to ask Mr. Slavoj if he sees  the re-emergence of the Blue Whopper as a symptom of the disintegration of LC (Late cap. [capitalism]) or if is simply another absurd manifestation of the recursive relationship between neoliberalism and the decadent culture of instant food.
Dwayne Bluwhopper / 14 October 2011 3 people think so
I think the nature of the conference is more philosophically oriented, especially to the uninitiated. The material is rather esoteric, and there was no mention of current events; however, to be fair, Zizek mentioned that they will not be addressing the problem of "what is to be done" at the beginning. I do think that Ruda is an original thinker and the concept of rethinking Descartes I suppose is taken to mean that the concept of communism itself needs rethinking. But we are all a long ways away from translating that into action in an accessible way. In a way, it is slightly saddening to think that we cannot get away from this discourse fetishism. The facts, problems, their solutions, etc. are a lot simpler. Otherwise, what is the point?

John Cumpston / 15 October 2011 1 person thinks so
What is the controversy surrounding philosophers in Great Britain, does anyone know?
John Cumpston / 15 October 2011
Test
Robert Baum / 15 October 2011
I think he was referring to the closure of Middlesex University's philosophy department and the contemptuous attitude of those who cut it. In effect they said that the department added no value to the university, suggesting a purely economic criterion for judging the worth of university studies. There was a strike/ sit in response to the closure.
Paul Brennan / 15 October 2011 1 person thinks so
Does anyone know how this works?   I am logged on but I left the page and came back (and relogged in) and now the conference won't play on my computer.
William Heidbreder / 15 October 2011
Speakers, mindfulness of the microphone please.
We online viewers are not getting the needed volume.

Three Skies / 15 October 2011 1 person thinks so
good morning! greetings from the philippines!
Glen Teejay Jarito / 15 October 2011
Thank you!
Marina Urbach / 15 October 2011
Thank you Verso.  Archived? Available now, soon? YouTube?
Again, the miking: for the online attendees, care please--even the three on the stage.
Three Skies / 15 October 2011
We will post up all sessions after the conference, but it may take a week or two ... And we'll try and monitor the sounds more carefully tomorrow ... 
Jacob Stevens / 15 October 2011
Thank you for this, Verso. Will be 'Communism, A New Beginning?' a book or will be the texts available online? I think that I'll write on the event here, in Colombia. 
Alberto Sánchez / 15 October 2011
still a very good live broadcast. aside from zizek always turning sideways the sound was good no background hiss. looking forward to the upload on youtube.
Nathan Melin / 15 October 2011
Is there a possibility to view the session from yesterday?
Kjartan Ingvarsson / 15 October 2011 1 person thinks so
Hi everyone! I'll be keeping an eye on this discussion from the conference room, so if there are any good questions for the speakers I can try and relay one or two of them at the end of the session. If you agree with someone's else's question, please mark it as 'interesting' ...
And we'll be posting all of these videos once we've edited the footage - please just give us a few days!
Jacob Stevens / 15 October 2011
Good morning. Many thanks to you all.  Could the page designer add the log of elapsed minutes to the screen--this would facilitate noting where in the talk…etc.  Again, thank you for this, Please do considerovercoming the obstacles delaying the immediate putting up the presentations for view--here or on Youtube--at a different time?
Three Skies / 15 October 2011
Would love to submit questions from the livefeed. Moderators?
Robert Baum / 15 October 2011
Yes, I can relay questions from this discussion ... 
Jacob Stevens / 15 October 2011
Very interesting discussions.  Please make audio mp3's available for re-listening.  Thanks!
Eric Weislogel / 15 October 2011 2 people think so
thank you, it was great to be able to see this livestream
Simone Pinet / 15 October 2011
Wonderful
talk Bruno! Dear Zizek, since debates about religion in the state have played such a
strong role in several of your books, I would like to know if you have read about
“The Left-Hand Path” or Satanist views proposed by Anton Szandor Lavey, the
founder of modern Satanism? Do you think that many of its principles, as
responsibility for the responsible, truth based on reason and not dogma,
self-development and other points might be adopted as powerful elements towards
a strong emergence of the Communist idea, and as a counter-argument against the
modern secular Judeo-Christian state? Thank you.
Marco Vélez / 15 October 2011
Thanks Jacob. I don't know how this question can even be considered given that we're about to start Susan's talk but I'll ask it anyway for the online folk as well as Slavoj and Bruno. from RCB in Vermont: How is this disentanglement of origins simply yet another version of the power struggle found in Judeo-Christianity to rewrite and institutionalize a new beginning, essentially a millenarian gesture on the part of atheists or secular humanists? How does Rozitchner's work provoke an even more radical discourse of disentanglement, one that uncovers, radicalizes, and moves outside the Judeo-Christian discourse Bruno seeks to engage in active disengagement?    
Robert Baum / 15 October 2011
For Susan:

Being is the real of the unpredictable. I'm sorry but you have introduced an unwarranted division between identity and action in Heidegger to ground your argument against an ontology of political action. Why? Also, if you are looking for an anti-"ism" philosopher, why alienate Heidegger whose notion of "it gives" or "life gives" (ereignis) perturbs any dogmatic reduction, especially the reification you fear in the "isms" you fear? There is nothing elegant about Heidegger's work, especially the incomplete Being and Time (1927) and the aphoristic Contributions (1935). In fact, there is more connecting ritual ontology of Soyinka and the denken/thinking Heidegger than your argument allows. (Robert in Vermont)
Robert Baum / 15 October 2011 1 person thinks so
sound?
Michael Kobs / 15 October 2011
For Susan:

On the contrary, Marx's teachings always reached beyond the factory floor. They certainly began with factories and other sites of capital's abuses but quickly appealed to other groups struggling to achieve emancipation. Marx's writings on American slavery (hardly a factory problem) would be one place to locate the broad application (and gradual development) of his central insights. (Robert in VT) 
Robert Baum / 15 October 2011
omg, how could you stop transmission just as the almighty Žižek is to respond to Buck-Morss!  How could you!
Tikky Wikky / 15 October 2011
Thank you so much.  Till 3:00.  Could you order some good "take-out" and use the interlude to get these streams on the web?  This mind tends to lento, sometimes larghetto, when the presenters go vivace and vivacissimo.  And the mentioned book titles, Bruno: anyone can help with full titles or spelling of the Argentine author's name. 
Three Skies / 15 October 2011 1 person thinks so
Rozitchner is the philosopher Bruno mentioned. I believe he's working on translations or has completed some? Had to look it up myself. :)  
Robert Baum / 15 October 2011 1 person thinks so
For Bruno Bosteels:
I really liked your line of argumentation but nevertheless, if one renounces Christianity, one will also lose Hegel, not to mention Monty Python. Why leave all those precious things to the enemy?
On the other hand, didn't Nietzsche try to construct a model of a non-Christian philosophy that failed precisely because it left him with nothing to philosophy about and than resulted into a painful return of Christianity through his identification with Christ.

For Susan Buck-Morss:
Why do you think that by naming one loses distance or loses dimension of openness? Would it not be a proper Hegelian thing to say that only by naming something one actually gains distance towards what has been named, because it is only through articulation that distance is being constituted. Vice versa, it is only by keeping something unnamed that one actually attaches the 'fundamentalist' dimension to it, because than the unnamed thing is das Ding, the unattainable Thing one can only worship. Openness and distance are kept through naming, words are the killers of things, etc.

Greetings to all participants, 
Vladan Milanko / 15 October 2011
Could someone tell me who the speaker just credited with giving a new foundation to dialectical materialism. "Katherine..."?
Callum Mc Cormick / 15 October 2011
Again: Thank you!
Marina Urbach / 15 October 2011
Quentin Meillassoux (?)
Three Skies / 15 October 2011
Hi there, I lost connectivity (my network) for the last fifty minutes. Could someone please write a brief summary of Adrian's talk? Thanks. :) -rcb/vt/usa 
Robert Baum / 15 October 2011
Will this be put online as a video so we can view it after the talks have been completed?
Devin De Palma / 15 October 2011
I think it's Catherine Malabou. Zizek brought her work to Saas Fee in 2008 and 2009. She also is part of his opening passages in Living in the End Times. She is a French philosopher who's received a lot of attention for her work on trauma also. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Malabou  
Robert Baum / 15 October 2011
Adrian's paper is exactly what I was expecting if you read any of his exemplary books on Ž on Badiou.  It's full of tongue twisters etc,  and like all of Adrian's work, his intellectualism is oddly trance-inducing.  But Ž quickly cuts through to what he considers to be the quick of his seminar.  Great debate, now bring on Etienne. 
Tikky Wikky / 15 October 2011 1 person thinks so
Yes Robert Baum, Catherine Malabou.
Are you far from St. Johnsbury VT?




Three Skies / 15 October 2011
 Marx would have been amazed by this development of communications that allows the streaming of such a conference simultaneously across the globe. Its an amazing example of the power of technology that allows a young socialist (such as myself) to follow a debate between the leading contemporary theorists of Communism (as an idea) as it occurs. Indeed I find it amazing. SIMPLY AMAZING!  Its an excellent modern representation of the power of productive and communicative forces - and how they can be harnessed for the struggle for revolutionary social change.


Nevertheless this massive power of capitalism to  expand communications is something Marx recognised. Indeed he saw this as a vital development for the success of building not only practical unity between workers but also fostering discussion of ideas and perspectives (as the participants are doing in this conference). It reminds me of a section in the Communist Manifesto - when Marx is talking about the link between the unity of workers and the improvement of worldwide communications: 

"This union (of worldwide workers) is helped on by the improved means of communication that are created by modern industry, and that place the workers of different localities in contact with one another. It was just this contact that was needed to centralise the numerous local struggles, all of the same character, into one national struggle between classes. But every class struggle is a political struggle. And that union, to attain which the burghers of the Middle Ages, with their miserable highways, required centuries, the modern proletarian, thanks to railways, achieve in a few years". 

Thus the importance of communications to the success of revolution is vital to understand and harness for us today. In Marx's time the tools for revolutionary communications were the steamship and telegraph. For us today  (alongside traditional communications) they are the internet, the online forum and the streamed conference. Such technology is the key to the basis of building understanding between workers across the globe - as can be seen by their use in the Arab and Greek Revolutions! Thus I think such streaming of radical conferences,  the greater dispersal of radical ideas and the utility of communications for revolutionary ends is a key weapon that we have in building greater discussion and action for radical movements today. 

Thank you Verso and the participants! 

Rhys Williams / 15 October 2011 2 people think so
I'm at the airport, and the slow internet is ruining Balibar's talk for me. Anyone care to summarize? I know that Balibar's work is atypically difficult to put into few words, but anything helps. 
Alec Niedenthal / 15 October 2011
@ Three Skies: I'm in Quechee
A bunch of EGS faculty and alum and students are working with me to create an education platform to support this "affinity" moment of global revolution (stated January 2010) called N+1 Academy.
We launch 11.11.11 with Avital Ronell (details TBA). Plans for NYU campus.
All are welcome.
Robert Baum / 15 October 2011
Question to the authors: What they think about Ernesto Screpanti's argument that the fundemental institution of capitalism is not private property but the employment contract? moreover, related with the theory of communism, he proposes a re-reading of Marx as libertarian to consider the issue of freedom ( or freedom of choice).
Ankara-Turkey
Abdullah Erkul / 15 October 2011
Thank you Slavoj and Verso for broadcasting the event. See you tomorrow.

Robert Baum / 15 October 2011
Thank you each and every one: set designers, lighting designers (dimly lit respondents is interesting), video, audio. Perhaps the presenters' written texts could go on the website.  Till tomorrow.  Bottoms up. 
Three Skies / 15 October 2011 1 person thinks so
I am reposting as for some reason my original post has disappeared from this sight.
Listening to Zizek last night and Bosteels this morning  one cannot but note the elephant in the room, the traumatic real  that cannot be  named or discussed-- Michel Foucault and his much abused and misunderstood model of biopolitics. This is evident in Bosteel's discussion of Augustinian disciplines of the body and confession as the production of the first modern subject,  and his discussion of the foundational terror that underlies  liberal democracy already dissected by Foucault In Society Must be Defended, But this theoretical amnesia  was even more profound in last night's debate on necessary communist state violence where the Foucauldian perspective of a biopolitical reduction of political personhood to a biologized, commodiied and weaponized body cross-cutting neoliberal democracies, and  instituted Marxist states was never mentioned. The exception to this was when Zizek declaimed "I hate Foucault!".  Zizek's  renewed faith in communist organization after his earlier professions of being a "Chrisitan Materialist" still does not propel him to develop a critique of the state form that could  account for or counter  that advanced by Foucault. Nor could Zizek distinguish between the inceptual conditions  for " excusable" state terror under Stalin and  the continuation of  this terror beyond the duration of those conditions, during WWII and afterwards nor its replication in Eastern and Central European Communist regimes after WWII. This is not to repeat another stigmatization of Marxism via a  crude reduction to Stalinism. Foucault's genealogy/archeology of biopower and the statist administration of life and death at least embarks in this direction of a critique of state form whether Stalinist, Maoist or neoliberal, though he too can be critiqued, but that is a far different project than the sheer structural forgetfulness instituted in this conference too date. Today Balibar went some way to correct this silence around Foucault.

Allen Feldman / 15 October 2011 2 people think so
The term communism as used in the discussion refers to an idea, ideal state...Are we to the certain degree  looking back into the etymology of the word- and basing the  idea on the semantic value of the word found when discovering  its linguistic origins, or should the  idea be informed by its historical developments immediately? Communism as a conceptual entity, subjective expreience of the individuals who know it through popular culture, common experiential reality for those who share the hope for its realization, is informed by the  communism that has materialized in the political and institutional formations that have grown out of the idea (even  sometimes materialized its own contradiction)? There is perhaps a question about epistemological grounds. I am concerned with the social realities that are evoked when the word 'communism' is pronounced, and how they relate to the historicity of the term. What kinds of structures of knowledge are necessary to produce a  ground for the revival of the idea (what about the left that has moved away from communism; I am wondering about the historical impasses connected to the constructions of ideologies;  1) new ideas as opposite anti-thetical to the prevailing order 2) conflict 3) new organization followed by the inclusion of the opposite within a new organization of power. I am wondering about  the potentials in the negative residues, non-dialectical thought, how can they make appearance in the dialogue, when working with the language itself.    
Marija Krtolica / 15 October 2011 1 person thinks so
Allen Feldman wrote:

//Foucault's genealogy/archeology of biopower and the statist administration of life and death at least embarks in this direction of a critique of state form whether Stalinist, Maoist or neoliberal, though he too can be critiqued, but that is a far different project than the sheer structural forgetfulness instituted in this conference too date. Today Balibar went some way to correct this silence around Foucault.//

I think what you describes goes beyond "structural forgetfulness" but the necessary erasure of memory that I still associate with any and all utopian ("new beginning") modalities of thinking. I also couldn't agree more with how you staged this séance . 

Were you by any chance at the Lacan, Inc. event last year? If not, someone at the Jack Taper attempted to bring Foucault into the conversation in a similar manner.

Why do you think Foucault is receiving such little attention in critical theory around communism and corporate communism these days? What would Foucault have to offer OccupyWallStreet? I've been thinking a lot about Camus, Sartre, and Foucault these days.

I ask these questions as both meditation and provocation.
Robert Baum / 16 October 2011
Disturbing to see that some of the audience/presenters are openly Maoists.
Moishe Moishe / 16 October 2011
To Robert Baum, Yes that was me who challenged Zizek and Badiou on their use of periodization (continuous linear time) to identify different stages in Marxist consciousness, 1. alienation (late 19th century),  2. tactics (Lenin), 3. subjectivation (Badiou) and cited Foucault's and Derrida's critique of the metaphysics of linear  time.
As per your other question, their is no critique of the state form at the conference, their is still the assumption that seizure of a centralized zone of power is the royal road to revolutionary transformation which means we have yet to hear a strategy to engage transnational corporate power. Note the nondiscussion of anarchist perspectives, of Ranciere, Castoriadis. Zizek only identifies critique of Marxist models of the state with liberal critique.
Allen Feldman / 16 October 2011 1 person thinks so
er.... sound .... please .......
Johnny Pavlatos / 16 October 2011
The mode of vicarious presence is an intriguing one -- but with tickets to a talk, sold out / given out in advance there is little option.  Still the palliative effect is perhaps the most intriguing: folks who would otherwise have raised their hands to no end in an audience can now do more than that...but is there more communicated?
What is true is that Zizek remains the most interesting political thinker on the matter of contemporary concerns, and one does need to think from the left for this.
(Posted before Sundays' talk begins in earnest...)
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
The vicarious participation effect of distance viewing seems to be the wave of the future.  Those who, in traditional conferences, would simply vainly raise their hands to no end can now comment as they like.  But this does not mean that there will be more of what Gadamer called conversation.
What is true is that Zizek remains the most interesting commentator on the political circumstance to date.  And what  remains even more accurate is that one has to take or make such commentary from the left.  Because (and of course) there is the small matter of a performative contradiction on the right, which is to say, the powers that be.
(Written before the events began on Sunday morning....)
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
Wendy Brown will be pleased by this engagement ... but does Jodi Dean need to begin with Brown in order to talk about left wing desire?  And with Benjamin and 1929 Berlin is the reference to the left and its melancholy not saddled with more than a little ahistoricism? Why not talk about today's left? Today's melancholy? Sans Benjamin however much fun he is to read ... ah but we are clearly still there. Except and this is the problem today: for the differences. Where are our "revolutionary hacks"?
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
Is the video stream not working today, Verso?
Rachel Baker / 16 October 2011
The video is working for me, and many others - perhaps just reload it? 
Jacob Stevens / 16 October 2011 1 person thinks so
This is a flattened Lacan so far...
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
Is it possible to see the footage of Balibar's talk yesterday?
John Cumpston / 16 October 2011 2 people think so
** Question for panelists **


Going a little back in time, Benjamin actually referred two two types of melancholia in his earlier work on the Trauerspiel, and there he took as source Panofsky's work on Durer. On one side we have a positive melancholia generosa, that drives its subject to reflective thinking and ultimately action, and acedia, the pathological and nihilistic drive toward fetishist self pity. So, I wonder if what we need is to turn that 1990s acedia into a more effective form of melancholia generosa that may allow us to overcome our current state of "emergency" (in the original sense that Buck-Morss mentioned yesterday: emerging) and transform it in a well articulate plan of action, the answer to the persistent What to do? question?

Samuel Sotillo / 16 October 2011
But Balibar likes it!
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
Laclau is the one who is missing here... Jodi's exposition is somewhat weak, in my opinion at least...
Gordan Maslov / 16 October 2011
And then sneaks in his own "distinction"
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
Then, however, what about strategy? I.e. in a purely pragmatic way? How do we convince, maybe even seduce 'the people' to keep that lack, gap open?
D. Joe / 16 October 2011
On Sotillo's question, And then there is Nietzsche's ekphrasis of a very different Duerer, a male knight, with rather more cares (real, anyone?) and less alchemic symbolism
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
Jodi Dean in response to Balibar: "for crying out loud, capitalism is broken"
Yes!  American theorizing at  it's best!
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
The purpose of theory is to provide weapons.
Tikky Wikky / 16 October 2011
And I naively thought that capitalism was broken from its very start... :-)
Gordan Maslov / 16 October 2011 2 people think so
Are we going to have a repeat of '68 where the theorists and intellectuals capitulated and did not take action? Shouldn't they seize this opportunity, or are they concerned that action will preclude their fetish for theory?
John Cumpston / 16 October 2011
The problem of 'taking the stuff' of the 1% is that it is not what one supposes it to be.  The collapse of financial markets is not a problem for the 1% but it is a problem for the 99%
Moreover the same streaming technology that allows me to write this is an instrument of unprecedented control, i.e., practical control and thought control.
It is not Foucault who is missing from this but Baudrillard...
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
Question for Jodi:

I am gingerly in asking this question because i believe in a certain kind of suspension of empirical impulses and giving in to theoretical experiments.


At the same time, doesn't (ought not) this communist desire, for it to arise, take a communal procedure of dissemination, or subjectivization? in other words, isn't "education" a missing link in this gap between the theoretical starry-eyedness--necessary as it is--and what Buck-Morss struggles to articulate, I may understand her correctly?



I remind you, you are holding this event at an educational institution. 

Young Ah Chung / 16 October 2011 1 person thinks so
@ Cumpston

Touche - The 99% screaming for a new master. I'm also thinking of that contigency of the Act which retroactively creates the necessity. Isn't what we need really some 'philospher-king' of a theorist to say; 'ok, this is what we're gonna do'?   
D. Joe / 16 October 2011 1 person thinks so
Useful question from Zizek, side effect of called for changes, inevitably and delicately, with reference to the French Revolution, 'the' terror...
and that is also the small matter of blood on one side or another.
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
and a dig against Chopra ---- Buddhist neo-hedonism...
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
Always thanking the audio crew, when a speaker stands beyond the microphone's reach, anyone could take part as a  macrophone, anytime--today, so we the 185 online participants can hear.
Three Skies / 16 October 2011 1 person thinks so
And Zizek nicely shows us how the language of collective consciousness ought rather (using the example of Stalin no less...) be articulated in lacanian terms rather than ad hominem renderings ... very dangerous...
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
s'quiet...
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
Zizek: we could hear the beginning of your remarks on Ernesto Laclau's take on the subject, but at a crucial point the microphone was cut off. Could you please elaborate after the break? Thank you.
Marina Urbach / 16 October 2011
I don't think Žižek took up Jodi's challenge at all.  His writing is manifest with themes: subject of desire vis a vis subject of drive not to mention this notion of an ethics of the real.  All the foregoing could be touched upon in any response and follow-up to Jodi's presentation.  Instead he got side-tracked by what I thought was a interesting but by no means a major intervention by Buck-Morss.  Too bad Bosteels didn't jump into this fray, and where was Adrian?
Tikky Wikky / 16 October 2011
Marina,
The off-camera comments were nothing new ... this is Žižek rehashing an ongoing debate with Laclau. He's says it all here
Zizek, Slavoj. "Against the Populist Temptation." Critical Inquiry 32.3 (Spring 2006): 551-74.



Tikky Wikky / 16 October 2011 1 person thinks so
I probably did not just hear a reference to Balkan Sobranies.... drat... (because Black Russian (black cigarettes, very nice, can only get them in Berlin) go out in the ashtray because they lack additives...
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
promising beginning with tech allusions to the man behind the curtain
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
Zizek and the bubbles --- aka filters, c'est a dire
the Steve Jobs effect

"our cloud functions in a way not dissimilar to the Chinese state..."
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
elegant... logic deregulatory anti-statist ... postmodern capitalism  ...  = the becoming rent of profit --- strengthening role of the state ... as it more and more relies on the state.
Indeed.

Personal libertarianism and hedonism are in accord with this.

Communism begins with what kant called the public use of reason.  When Paul says men/women jews/greeks slaves/masters  

reflection on ethnic = private use of reason.  MUENDIGKET
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
aaargggh death on the sentence after Chesterton...
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
aaargggh death on the sentence after Chesterton...
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
Nice but not developped allusion to "the democratic illusion" where if one were clearer here (re Badiou) one would be speaking of pretense of democracy (i.e., the US as if it were [or had ever been] a 'democracy'
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
negation of the negation as that "immer schoen".... 

As Zizek says:  "you start with a certain position: marriage, property, theft *negation* *adultery* that of course property IS theft; marriage in its loveless form already is adultery"

(or as Nietzsche would say, extended as a promise against the future)

"the mismanagement/abuse is inscribed into the system itself"
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
Goedel contra Adorno
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
Zizk, borrowing from Fred Jameson, observing (and both from Marx)

that

the production of umemployment IS the logic of capitalist globalization...
Babette Babich / 16 October 2011
What are these deficiencies in Jameson's economic thinking to which Zizek refers? Does anyone know? 
Paul Brennan / 16 October 2011
'It's your duty - you have to teach us'

Bravo Zizek.
D. Joe / 16 October 2011
Paul@ as far as I understood it is just usual Zizek's lament that Jameson borrowed everything he knows about economy from Mandel...
Gordan Maslov / 16 October 2011
Ah, I see, thanks. Arrighi also seems a common reference in Jameson these days.  
Paul Brennan / 16 October 2011
Verso: could you keep this "Add a response" space open beyond the video and audio crews' take down, and the presenters' walking ona: a space for us to "cool down" or "heat up", or "share" or "plot" or eroticize?  Thanks to you all again.

Three Skies / 16 October 2011
Three Skies: we will! 
Jacob Stevens / 16 October 2011
Camera dear: The woman, the woman, see the woman; we've seen Slavoj!
Three Skies / 16 October 2011
Thank you very much everyone!
Michael Kobs / 16 October 2011
Thanks to all involved - hope you'll be back.
Paul Brennan / 16 October 2011
Thank you for this great event Verso, Cooper Union and the excellent speakers. Zizek rules!
Marco Vélez / 16 October 2011
Thank you, Tikky Wikky.
Marina Urbach / 16 October 2011
Stephen, You got the 'OFFLINE' message, because you needed to be in 'Firefox' you probably were using something else. I hope you solved the problem. Warm regards, marina urbach
Marina Urbach / 16 October 2011
Zizek, it seemed to me, swerved to avoid the pointed question he was asked by the penultimate contributor from the floor.  Would a new communism no longer seek to expropriate the expropriators? What does it mean to be for "the commons" - is that possible - without such expropriation?
Paul Brennan / 16 October 2011 1 person thinks so

To Jacob Stevens,

Congratulations on a fabulous event!

All technical glitches notwithstanding, the time and energy you and your colleagues have devoted to broadcasting this conference on the web is deeply appreciated.

Cheers!

Fred Mayer
Fred Mayer / 16 October 2011
Following along SZ's noting what's happening to higher education in Europe: Stefan Collini's article in the 25 August 2011 London Review of Books (T. of C. title, The Dismantling of the Universities, p. 9).
Three Skies / 16 October 2011
To everyone involved in organizing this event: Thank you so much! An amazing event at an amazing price!  The best spent $20 of my life, so far.  Verso Books, please make an effort to organize this same event in Washington DC.
Dariana Arias / 16 October 2011
To Jake and the whole crew at Verso: Many thanks for streaming this event and all the preparations that went into it. I thoroughly enjoyed the talks, and thought Jodi Dean's contributions, especially her use of Freud, Benjamin and Brown, were fascinating and rather useful.

From an occupied Toronto,
Chris W
Chris Webb / 16 October 2011
To Jake and the whole crew at Verso: Many thanks for streaming this event and all the preparations that went into it. I thoroughly enjoyed the talks, and thought Jodi Dean's contributions, especially her use of Freud, Benjamin and Wendy Brown, were fascinating and rather useful.

From an occupied Toronto,
Chris W
Chris Webb / 16 October 2011
Thank you speakers and Verso for this event. Hope there will be a followup conference soon.

René Janssen
Netherlands
Rene Janssen / 16 October 2011
I'd be interested to know if the talks will be published in any form or available as texts.  
William Heidbreder / 16 October 2011
can i watch this conference now that it is finished? like an offline video or something?
Kyle Schmitz / 18 October 2011 2 people think so
Jacob Stevens  said he would post when the footage is edited.
Michael Hess / 27 October 2011
Attended Friday night, unable to attend the day conferences; disappointed that Zizek changed the schedule of his talk to early Sunday morning. Frank Ruda in place of him on Friday gave extremely abstract paper, speaking his paper as rapidly as his tongue would allow; impossible to follow such concepts given in that manner. Virtually no pretense that an act of communication occurred. Formally, it represented a conference. Really a shame that although it was filmed, the talks are not posted for the public to view.
Brian Prager / 03 November 2011
Just wondering when this conference would be posted online?
Victor Martinelli / 05 December 2011

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